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tizzy100 FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 105 Join date : 2012-08-02 Age : 26 Location : nanaimo bc canada Companies : FINGERBOARDING C: Setup : berlin wood wide low tky desk rocker red brt's 2.0s and substance thc'bs
| Subject: your view on sponsors. Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:28 pm | |
| i would never want to be sponsored by someones brand that i wouldn't buy from and that's my view on it so let me hear your view on getting sponsored. |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:21 pm | |
| Pointless... that's my view on sponsorship... If you don't get paid then why advertise some ones else's products.
Simple as that your a free advertisement !
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tizzy100 FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 105 Join date : 2012-08-02 Age : 26 Location : nanaimo bc canada Companies : FINGERBOARDING C: Setup : berlin wood wide low tky desk rocker red brt's 2.0s and substance thc'bs
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:27 pm | |
| no its not a free advertisment because if u like there company and want other people to buy from them and want to rep there stuff and usualy you will get discounts or sotmhing so its not technicly free |
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Mikkel S Moderator
Posts : 3752 Join date : 2011-09-20 Age : 33 Location : Denmark Setup :
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:28 pm | |
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eddie.s. FBHQ Regular
Posts : 461 Join date : 2010-08-10 Age : 34 Location : Widnes, England, North west.
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:41 pm | |
| It's not free advertisement, your technically getting paid in products.
the company is sending you FREE products to represent there company.
I support my sponsors and they support me. |
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Luis Correia Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2149 Join date : 2012-06-03 Location : Lisbon, Portugal
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:55 pm | |
| - eddie.s. wrote:
I support my sponsors and they support me. nothing else to add..to me a sponsorship is a way to represent a company you love (if you don't you shouldn't even be sponsored by them) and getting to use their products without spending money all the time, and by using their products you can easily spread the brand and it's quality |
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Pedro Blossoming FBHQer
Posts : 334 Join date : 2011-09-01 Age : 28 Location : Portugal Setup : Flint
Blackriver trucks
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:59 pm | |
| They're paying you because you dont need to buy anything. If I was sponsored it was only from brands that I support, like and share the same philosophy. |
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wastingjake FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 88 Join date : 2012-06-25 Age : 33 Location : North Carolina Companies : Skateboarding, Fingerboarding, Golf Setup : FlatFace G13, BRT True Blue, Rip Tape, FlatFace BRR Edition (white)
Yellowood , BRT Wide, FBS Tape, Oak pink
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:05 pm | |
| I would only want to be sponsered by a brand/company that I like/would buy from and if the people are cool. But I'm not to worried about ever getting sponsered because I just like to fingerboard for fun. I've been there and done that with skateboarding and it kind of takes some of the fun away. Not saying I would turn it down but I am probably not going to go out of my way for it. Plus I doubt I will be good enough anytime soon. Just my 2 cents. |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:50 pm | |
| Call it what you will
you don't sponsor someone for them not to advertise there sponsors free of charge...
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skeep222 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1549 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Holden, MA Companies : Secks Decks, Fingerblast Ramps Co. Setup : Woob
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:00 pm | |
| its not free of charge, you get product... |
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Xavier Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2752 Join date : 2011-05-15 Age : 27 Location : Inside my head Setup : Whats a setup
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:20 pm | |
| - Pedro wrote:
If I was sponsored it was only from brands that I support, like and share the same philosophy. Same with me |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:37 pm | |
| Your missing the point entirely.. |
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skeep222 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1549 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Holden, MA Companies : Secks Decks, Fingerblast Ramps Co. Setup : Woob
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:49 pm | |
| gilly you dont get paid for being sponsored for skatebparding either? you get free product... |
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Finn S Part of the Furniture
Posts : 4337 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 27 Location : Ramsgate-Kent Setup : Blosom 30.5
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:51 pm | |
| ^ Oh yeah, that explains how they're all so loaded |
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skeep222 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1549 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Holden, MA Companies : Secks Decks, Fingerblast Ramps Co. Setup : Woob
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:16 pm | |
| - Finn S wrote:
- ^ Oh yeah, that explains how they're all so loaded
NO, if they have a pro model wheel, or hat, or deck, whatever, they get a little thing called ROYALTIES, where they get a cut of sales for their models. |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:27 pm | |
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Deshawn Harris Blossoming FBHQer
Posts : 233 Join date : 2011-12-06 Age : 39 Location : New Jersey, America
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:06 pm | |
| - Mikkel S wrote:
- We had a thread about this some time ago.
https://fingerboardhq.darkbb.com/t7125-so-tell-me-why-do-you
It has a lot of very good points. Listen to the OP of that thread. He knows a lot about a lot of things. Free advertisement? Alright, i'll blow your mind right now. You know how you buy from say... BW.. for example. The moment you set that deck up, film, and say the deck you have.. or any such item.. guess what that is. Advertisement. NOT JUST ANY ADVERTISEMENT.. one that YOU PAID to do. Thats right. You are paying said company for a product and giving them not only free advertisement but money out of YOUR pocket. Sponsorship is not free advertisement. Fingerboarding is a smaller scale to skateboarding, and so, your "pay" is product.. which goes from any where of 15 to 35 bucks, depending on the product. You are getting SOMETHING. Only a ignorant grammar-impaired "gotta be rebel" person thinks a sponsorship in fingerboarding is pointless because there is no pay. Now, if you say sponsorship isnt needed to enjoy fingerboarding, THEN youre pretty bright. Ben is right. Skaters get paid only if their product sells. Its why skaters press for shoes sponsors more than deck sponsors because its easy to determine what model is selling more. Not to mention shoes cost more and you dont have to use them for their "intended purpose" to have them! |
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skeep222 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1549 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Holden, MA Companies : Secks Decks, Fingerblast Ramps Co. Setup : Woob
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:13 pm | |
| - Deshawn Harris wrote:
- Mikkel S wrote:
- We had a thread about this some time ago.
https://fingerboardhq.darkbb.com/t7125-so-tell-me-why-do-you
It has a lot of very good points. Listen to the OP of that thread. He knows a lot about a lot of things.
Free advertisement? Alright, i'll blow your mind right now.
You know how you buy from say... BW.. for example. The moment you set that deck up, film, and say the deck you have.. or any such item.. guess what that is. Advertisement. NOT JUST ANY ADVERTISEMENT.. one that YOU PAID to do. Thats right. You are paying said company for a product and giving them not only free advertisement but money out of YOUR pocket.
Sponsorship is not free advertisement. Fingerboarding is a smaller scale to skateboarding, and so, your "pay" is product.. which goes from any where of 15 to 35 bucks, depending on the product. You are getting SOMETHING. Only a ignorant grammar-impaired "gotta be rebel" person thinks a sponsorship in fingerboarding is pointless because there is no pay. Now, if you say sponsorship isnt needed to enjoy fingerboarding, THEN youre pretty bright.
Ben is right. Skaters get paid only if their product sells. Its why skaters press for shoes sponsors more than deck sponsors because its easy to determine what model is selling more. Not to mention shoes cost more and you dont have to use them for their "intended purpose" to have them! YES! Thank you! exactly what was on my mind ! |
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raymond Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1725 Join date : 2011-07-08 Age : 29 Location : Minnesota, USA Companies : fingerboarding, skateboarding, film-production, piano, photography, swag
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:37 pm | |
| Sponsorship in finger-boarding is great opportunity if you're actually sponsored by someone who knows what they're doing and will actually teach you things and show you the ropes, keep you updated on what's going on and let you actually be apart of the company and invite you to make decisions.
Skateboarders get paid more than you think. In any article or photograph that is published, let's say they're doing a kick-flip back lip down a handrail, real clear tight shot. They have their sponsors plastered on the bottom of their board, every time that brand pops up they get a fixed rate payment. It's usually fixed. Same goes for interviews, and any other public event, etc.
That's how it was for me in bmx racing. I was an intermediate, 7th in the state and I would put a few brands that I actually used and liked and put em on my frame. Photographers from any local bmx magazine would take pictures and I'd scan em off, send em to the company. Give them my stats and say hey, I'm repping your brand down here pretty hard. Wanna hit me up some new brakes or a new 3-peice? I never really got $. Just product.
This type of thing I would call flow.
For fingerboarding. It's more of a flow sponsorship. Flow is where you get a consistent "flow" of product.
Sponsorship is where you get paid, covering cost, benefits, travel for free.
Sponsorship's just an easier way to put it for this.
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Streloma Blossoming FBHQer
Posts : 165 Join date : 2011-12-14 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:26 pm | |
| What raymond said is very true. I have a friend who is one of the best freestyle skiers in the world. He gets a fixed ammount of money earnt per year, fixed ammount for travelling per year and also every ad\cover of magasine he is in, he gets paid a bonus from every sponsor. I guess this would be the exact same thing in skateboarding because sponsorship is very similar in both of these sports (had a friend a very long time ago who was sponsored in skate and it was the same but on a smaller scale as he was russian and was not one of the best skaters there).
But as raymond said, and from what i understand, there is no money involved in the sponsorship of fingerboarding. You just get the products and that is how you rep the brand. I see this sponsorship as a way to help company owners improve their products. |
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Ken .I Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2868 Join date : 2012-04-13 Age : 26 Setup : Blosom 32mm
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:08 pm | |
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callumfb95 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 3193 Join date : 2012-01-08 Age : 28 Location : Manchester, UK Setup : Blossom 32.5
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| Subject: Re: your view on sponsors. Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:27 pm | |
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