| How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder | |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:54 am | |
| I've been brazing alot lately so I thought I'd share a little "know how" with the forum. As I haven't seen a how to on it yet. First off: If you're not of age get your guardians to help. Because it's extremely hot and you can get serious burns. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Tools/Materials you'll need: Dremel (with cut off disks) Mapp Gas torch. (The yellow one) or acetylene torch. Harris safety silv-45 Harris stay-silv flux Magnet (Optional) Metal- (any kind a magnet will stick too.) Vise or pair of Vise grips. Helping hands (really only needed on intricate stuff, but helps) Water and a rag. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ (1)Design your rail on cardboard or paper, I use cardboard. Sketch on a piece of cardboard or paper in the actual size you want your rail. (2) With your dremel make your cuts and clean the spots that are touching you are wanting to attach together. Like so: (3) Use a vise or vise grips to make bends as you had designed. (If you have bends) (4) Place all the pieces in position on the cardboard: This way you know everything is proper. (5) Fishmouth your metal so it cradles the other piece its joining to. not a great pic but you get the idea: (6) Use the flux to coat the cleaned joints. Put the flux only where you want the braze to go. Set the rail up as you want it using helping hands, vise, vise grips, magnets, or all of the above. Make sure the spot you're working on is held secure and stable, you don't want it moving on you while its red hot. Like this: |
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Bobbernaut Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2687 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Netherlands Setup : Homemade Mellow Wide Split
China Wides (Red/White)
No Comply's (Black)
CNC Bearing Wheels (Red)
China Foamtape (Black, duh)
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:13 am | |
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BrorS Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1096 Join date : 2012-05-17 Age : 26 Location : Sweden, Norrköping Setup : none unfortunately
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:12 pm | |
| look like it would flip over suuuuuper easy |
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Bobbernaut Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2687 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Netherlands Setup : Homemade Mellow Wide Split
China Wides (Red/White)
No Comply's (Black)
CNC Bearing Wheels (Red)
China Foamtape (Black, duh)
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:13 pm | |
| - BrorS wrote:
- look like it would flip over suuuuuper easy
You need to mount it |
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JakeC Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2379 Join date : 2012-03-07 Age : 24 Location : delaware
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:56 pm | |
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Ollie Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1071 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:41 pm | |
| Nice work man! Still super excited for my rail. It's awesome |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:53 am | |
| Thanks guys! This is just one way to do it. If you have access to a welder thats cool too but seems abit overkill and alot more grinding down welds, with braze you don't have to do all that. - Bobbernaut wrote:
- BrorS wrote:
- look like it would flip over suuuuuper easy
You need to mount it Yeah, this one in particular uses bike chain link to screw it down to the table, a plank of wood whatever, and works really nicely if you hate the "legs" getting in the way of your sweet tricks. Oliver, thanks man, and I'll do my best to have it finished tomorrow and get it sent out, before all the mayhem starts. Here's a close up of the brazed joint after its been cleaned with sandpaper or 3m pad. full rail "polished" before clear coat or paint or both. |
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Ollie Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1071 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:10 am | |
| Oh my lord I get to own that. That's seriously gonna be so much fun. Looks super realistic too |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:22 am | |
| Here Is Ollie's rail all finished and ready to ship. |
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Ollie Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1071 Join date : 2012-11-13 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:12 am | |
| What the hell that's so sexy! |
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Jay W FBHQ Regular
Posts : 706 Join date : 2011-11-15 Age : 27 Location : Ohio, USA Setup : G12
Brt's
Oaks
Rip
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:18 pm | |
| Holy crap that incredible!!! |
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keiranclen Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1142 Join date : 2012-08-06 Age : 26 Location : England , Stoke-on-Trent Setup : Skate grip
OG Deck
TD LB trucks
FF G6 wheels.
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:27 pm | |
| WOW! gimme! u better make a video on it Oliver |
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DanielM Supporter
Posts : 1207 Join date : 2012-01-20 Age : 33 Location : Griffin,GA Setup : サワーす
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:29 pm | |
| the bike chain thing is very clever. This thread is |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:34 am | |
| will you be selling any of these/ can you custom make rails to sell? |
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JakeC Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2379 Join date : 2012-03-07 Age : 24 Location : delaware
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:36 am | |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:16 am | |
| Glad you all like it.
Zink, I really like the bike link as well, it saves alot of time in drilling holes, and if you put it on a plank you can take it and skate it everywhere. Feel free to post some you guys have made.
As of right now, I don't really have the time to make a butt load of rails, but maybe soon. Feel free to pm me though. |
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Bakko Moderator
Posts : 1645 Join date : 2012-10-09 Age : 45 Location : Rehab Companies : Primitive Decks Co.
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 am | |
| My god Murdock, this is some sweet sweet handcrafting it warms my heart to see used for this! Its the way we make custom grills for our hotrods.. The same tecnique was used to make both the grill and most of the interior skeleton in this vintage Volvo Amazon built and owned by my friend Eivind Svensen. Cant beliave I missed this thread untill now!! This is some good stuff you are doing man. Keep it up! Looking forward to see the progress of your park build, so feel free to share as much as possible. I am shure the forum readers would enjoy it.. |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:38 pm | |
| - Bakko wrote:
- My god Murdock, this is some sweet sweet handcrafting it warms my heart to see used for this! Its the way we make custom grills for our hotrods..
The same tecnique was used to make both the grill and most of the interior skeleton in this vintage Volvo Amazon built and owned by my friend Eivind Svensen. Cant beliave I missed this thread untill now!! This is some good stuff you are doing man. Keep it up! Looking forward to see the progress of your park build, so feel free to share as much as possible. I am shure the forum readers would enjoy it.. Dude, that volvo is so sick. I learned how to do this on Rccrawler, and then got a job in a bodyshop and learned how to apply it to all sorts of hobby work. Thanks man I love working with metal, I'm glad im getting such a positive response, It makes me want to build a ton of rails.... Here's a few examples of other things I do with braze. bumpers, linkage, spare tire rack with working spring loaded latch, whip antenna all made by me. Rose I made for the ol'lady. Rock sliders and linkage... |
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Bakko Moderator
Posts : 1645 Join date : 2012-10-09 Age : 45 Location : Rehab Companies : Primitive Decks Co.
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:36 am | |
| You are so good with those hands! Looking forward to see as this evolves |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:40 pm | |
| - Bakko wrote:
- You are so good with those hands! Looking forward to see as this evolves
Thanks man, means alot, as I'm fan of your work aswell. You think I should I make a tread just for the park? |
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Bakko Moderator
Posts : 1645 Join date : 2012-10-09 Age : 45 Location : Rehab Companies : Primitive Decks Co.
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:31 am | |
| Oh, thank you. You are most kind! My opinion is that it wouldnt hurt the forums to have good WIP (work in progress) threads. A dedicated WIP section of the forums would be cool and tidy.. |
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Ken .I Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2868 Join date : 2012-04-13 Age : 26 Setup : Blosom 32mm
Brt wides
Substance Zeros
Ace tape
TKY's
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:52 am | |
| Awesome!
Gotta sticky this! |
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Murdock FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 144 Join date : 2012-11-30 Age : 39 Location : Florida Setup : wide decks
med kicks/concave
loose but firm trucks
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:29 pm | |
| Thanks guys, I think a WIP thread would be really cool..
Most forums i join are for the how to's. |
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mattyb Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1918 Join date : 2011-11-07 Age : 26 Location : traphouse. Setup : im not a cop dude
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:27 pm | |
| - Bakko wrote:
- You are so good with those hands!
thats what she said |
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Bakko Moderator
Posts : 1645 Join date : 2012-10-09 Age : 45 Location : Rehab Companies : Primitive Decks Co.
| Subject: Re: How to make a rail using braze, and silver solder Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:55 am | |
| - mattyb wrote:
- Bakko wrote:
- You are so good with those hands!
thats what she said Oh you so naughty Mattyboy..lol |
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