i didnt mean in the middle ply i meant bottom lol
its way diffrent than a m1
and it has plenty laquer
m1

redemp mellow( with a weird angle)

Yeah I know what you mean for sure...

I was not hating at all

it looks like the shape of the deck is like a Foundation deck it looks exactly like that, it looks curvy like bendy

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i mean homewood tim....looks like he molded a m1, and just changed it a bit......but now u have put the push up...it looks like that too

Its what he always does...

The first mold like the First Redemptions were just like a YW!

yeah, that's why i wont support him no more...at first i thought his decks were great, and to be fair, i have seen some great decks from him....but he just copies everyone now, copies their molds, even copies obstacles/hydrants etc......he cant come up with none of his own ideas.....id rather support someone whose struggling to make ends meat, but has their own quality products they made themselves....even if they are more money

Yeah...

I would say you get what you pay for on this one...

I know my decks are still cheap, but you should still see the love that does into each and every deck!
I am not trying to advertise, but seriosly, I make only about 1-2 each day to ensure quality!
And I don't have 20 decks pressing at one time!

ii had one of the first redemptions it was nothing like a yellowood
and it looks nothing like a push jordan makes good quality decks for a low price so that you dont pay out the ass for a decent setup
and the shapes may be similar but damn a lot of companies go for the skate shape
just because they are close in shape doesnt mean he molded another companies deck damn!

tim what i meant by wonky was uneven and yeah it looks like a homwood m1 but fiddled with lol but i know he dosent copy decks my old mold was like no other and so was my nm so yeah he deffo dosent copy

i think his best mold is the 'new mold' but the steep one which is kinda like a bw09.........all im saying is Ive brought redemption/seen them etc.and i would never buy another..their too inconsistent....1 out of 3 might be good.....the other 2 meh......id rather pay a bit more and guarantee getting a consistent solid deck ...but like i say....Ive seen great ones....but also a lot of chuff too

you guys are crazy sick deck tim redemption is kickass fosho

Thank you nick payne

nice deck tim, everyone stop hating on redemption, he's trying to do something for the scene, yeah some of his decks are abit inconsistent but all the redemptions ive had have been amazing, definately in my top 5 decks. and i know plenty of other people from events who have tried my redemption and loved it, and he can make alot better decks than most of us on here.
also, that shape is nothing like and other deck :L its not like a homewood m1, they look really realistic, the redemption has longer dips if you get me. and how can anyone say it looks like a push m1? are you blind?

yeah lol it looks noting like a push m1 but i have to admit that it does look abit like a hm m1 but o well but seriusly tho did you see on ffi when everyone said he was copying every single fingerboard out there that was ridiulous becuase his other shapes are <3333333 there sooo unigue just that one looks abit like a hm m1 and yea the dips are different

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and i know plenty of other people from events who have tried a redemption and loved it

exactly,my best deck is aredemption.

If only you guys knew the REAL story about Redemption. Hahaha. So ignorant... Dude's not legit. He has straight up stolen ideas from Todd.

I think at the end of the day it comes down to 'copying'. Whilst I will admit that he does seem to come out with things very soon after other companies do (todd for example), meh. I think todd still does well people respect no comply a LOT more, so, yea. Imo redemption guy is trying to put things out and thats all good in my books, its not like hes bondoing push decks and selling them or anything..

i agree what jordan is doing is great for kids to get a cheap deck....but.....his decks are not consistent....my custom sucked. tims looks bad. he copies everyone...his molds are all made from previous decks just played about with....i know this to be 95% fact.

id rather wear a pair of vans, than walk around in a fake pair of walmart copies..that fall to bits in a week..


ok.....i have seen some great decks from him, but ive also seen too many crap ones.....no quality control what so ever.....just bash them out, cowboy style and make a quick buck.........you have all seen his 'wall of vices' .....how many decks you think he makes in a day?.......quality takes time.....and my custom was just bad....even though i picked the plies and it was my favorite colour...i still saw the flaws of bad holes, crap shape, wonky concave etc,etc,etc....

go buy a redemption kids.......their cheap and cheerful....and you may get a good one......but more than likely it will be pants.......


i know i might sound ignorant....but all you guys know me, and i base stuff on fact not fiction.....

I think hes a lot better than he used to be.. but, I guess I cant say much when i've never used a redemption.

And lol vans fall apart in a few weeks anyway XD

yeah, i get you kerry, and i wouldnt say these things if i didnt feel so strongly on them....everyone thinks he's cheap, and i guuess he is....but at the moment you can get a jt,woodland,motive,creekwood,board kennel etc,etc....all around the same price, and all sooo much better quality

board kennels gargle my balls
motive are 30 on flatface
and this mellow mold is the first mold under the redemption name but he fixed the dips and concave lay off him
and so what if he has a wall of vices so what if he moolds that many decks at a time it comes down to the sanding rounding done one at a time

Guys, honestly, stop listening to what everyone on FFI says, and stop judging the pictures . If Tim says the deck isn't "wonky," then I'm sure it isnt wonky. Two of my best decks have been redemptions, and if you've paid any attention to who's been saying shit about redemption, it's all big name companies out there and their riders. Even though Jordan is undercutting the competition with relatively the same products, what he is doing is completely fair. Without companies like redemption (and especially redemption), basic economic principles suggest the "scene" would essentially be an oligopoly with companies like flatface setting even higher prices than we see now.

i base my opinions on fact. tim your saying he's adjusted the mold again and sorted the dips out?...well he shouldn't have sold decks that were not ready imo.......i think its good what he's doing.....but if it was my company i would never let out decks like ive brought from him...they would have been scrapped from the start/finish.

ok so one deck is "bad" that doesnt mean all decks are
i respect you blos but this thread is getting way out of had
if you dont like his decks fine but dont bash a company for one deck
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