Mikkel S wrote:

The only people getting ripped off are the people that work 6+ hours on a deck and sell it for $20.

That's deep.

I think that price points depend on how the product is being made. People who spend a lot of time making one deck should be able to charge more money compared to someone who gets their product made by a machinist or buy it in bulk. Nathan talks about how free shipping should be a more common thing and while I think that's true, it isn't that easy. He says how Brian used to offer it and I can't speak for Brian but I'd assume he stopped because it got expensive. Over the past year the postal service has raised it's prices on shipping. It now costs $7 to ship a deck out of the country and roughly $4-$5 to ship in the country. If someone like me is selling a deck for $20 that leaves me anywhere from $13-$15 to put towards basic materials. I think that 4c can be more flexible with their prices because they aren't taking the time out of their day to make their products and are buying in bulk. I realize this is beating a dead horse but figured I'd try to give my two cents on the shipping part of the whole thing.

Ryan wrote:

I think that price points depend on how the product is being made. People who spend a lot of time making one deck should be able to charge more money compared to someone who gets their product made by a machinist or buy it in bulk. Nathan talks about how free shipping should be a more common thing and while I think that's true, it isn't that easy. He says how Brian used to offer it and I can't speak for Brian but I'd assume he stopped because it got expensive. Over the past year the postal service has raised it's prices on shipping. It now costs $7 to ship a deck out of the country and roughly $4-$5 to ship in the country. If someone like me is selling a deck for $20 that leaves me anywhere from $13-$15 to put towards basic materials. I think that 4c can be more flexible with their prices because they aren't taking the time out of their day to make their products and are buying in bulk. I realize this is beating a dead horse but figured I'd try to give my two cents on the shipping part of the whole thing.

Hit the nail on its gat dang head

Another reason why 4c can offer free shipping is because their products are already selling for a much higher price than they pay for them. So you just pay the shipping through the product price anyway.

I knew I coulda lived without openin this thread.

deejaydestroy wrote:

I knew I coulda lived without openin this thread.

You've been sucked in now  

deejaydestroy wrote:

I knew I coulda lived without openin this thread.

Nah man this is a great thread it has randomly entertained me for the last few weeks. 

Ryan wrote:

deejaydestroy wrote:

I knew I coulda lived without openin this thread.

You've been sucked in now  

neztek wrote:

deejaydestroy wrote:

I knew I coulda lived without openin this thread.

Nah man this is a great thread it has randomly entertained me for the last few weeks.

ahaha, maybe ill skim through~

yeah I don't think anyone's gotten bent out of shape

dat ulwayz gud!

Being ripped off is kind of more to do with the buyer than the seller. If the buyer doesn't do any research and buys a product that is of low quality being sold for a high price, although it's somewhat unethical for the seller to do it, it's still an open market, and thus is really the buyers fault.
Providing of course the company hasn't talked up the products quality beyond belief  


The other side of it is, big brands can always charge more.
You can pay $20 for a good quality T-shirt, you can also pay $40 for a T-shirt of the exact same quality with a Nike logo on the front. 

Hence you can buy a really good quality deck for $20, or you can a really good quality deck with Flatface on it for $45.

Why ? Because flatface is a trusted company, has a rich history in fingerboarding, and is well respected.

Joe Fullager wrote:

Being ripped off is kind of more to do with the buyer than the seller. If the buyer doesn't do any research and buys a product that is of low quality being sold for a high price, although it's somewhat unethical for the seller to do it, it's still an open market, and thus is really the buyers fault.
Providing of course the company hasn't talked up the products quality beyond belief  


The other side of it is, big brands can always charge more.
You can pay $20 for a good quality T-shirt, you can also pay $40 for a T-shirt of the exact same quality with a Nike logo on the front. 

Hence you can buy a really good quality deck for $20, or you can a really good quality deck with Flatface on it for $45.

Why ? Because flatface is a trusted company, has a rich history in fingerboarding, and is well respected.

fuck yeah ^^ that's another intelligent point..more on topic!!!

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Ryan wrote:

yeah I don't think anyone's gotten bent out of shape

fuck you

skeep222 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

yeah I don't think anyone's gotten bent out of shape

fuck you

M8 yull end up dwn main st wif ur pants around yo ankoles and a lolly pop in yo mouf

Ryan wrote:

skeep222 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

yeah I don't think anyone's gotten bent out of shape

fuck you

M8 yull end up dwn main st wif ur pants around yo ankoles and a lolly pop in yo mouf

Kinky.

Ryan wrote:

skeep222 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

yeah I don't think anyone's gotten bent out of shape

fuck you

M8 yull end up dwn main st wif ur pants around yo ankoles and a lolly pop in yo mouf

I will take you down to your muvver's house, me n the stoozy boys will roll up and do groutwork IN YO BAFFROOM

Oi Ben you cheeky lil fuk, dont be scrappin' wi ma boi Ryan or els u will av the full crew on ya.

LMFAO DANNY!!!!!

Listen mate...

One thing that I have noticed, is that you look at some really quality decks at $30, but then I've seen plenty of deck companies with just the same, maybe even better quality decks for like $5-$10 I will excuse Berlinwood and Blackriver etc, because they aren't small companies, they must make decks non stop. but its when the smaller companies over charge on something that someone else is making just as good for way cheaper.

No one sells quality decks for $5-10 .. Not that i have ever seen.

Mikkel S wrote:

No one sells quality decks for $5-10 .. Not that i have ever seen.

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who ever takes 6 hours to make one deck has problems lol . cut and shaped 2 decks in about 25mins today , but i have a shaping template also so yea.

keelan W wrote:

who ever takes 6 hours to make one deck has problems lol . cut and shaped 2 decks in about 25mins today , but i have a shaping template also so yea.

I don't think he meant literally 6 hours. I think his point is that people work well under minimum wage to make a quality deck that might not even sell. I don't know about you but I've made a stock of decks that never even sold. Clearly that's a risk I'm willing to take because I don't rely on selling decks to make money.

Mikkel S wrote:

No one sells quality decks for $5-10 .. Not that i have ever seen.

Ever heard of Havok? on ebay their decks are $4.98