Well, I will soon be making decks, and I was wondering if 4 ply decks were better or worse then 5 plys, and I wanted to know the differences?

thanks

- Jackson

4 plys deck are thin and you can use only 2 diffrent kind of venners.

eg: maple , red , maple , red

^don't know what you're on about there.. you can use 4 different veneers if you want? O_o

4 plys are thinner, but lighter, and so floatier on tricks. 5 plys are thicker, thus have more pop, but are heavier. Its all preference, and I think they're both fantastic to use

I like em just rarely make 'em. Maybe I'll try em out some day.

kerryDETH wrote:

and so floatier on tricks

Floatier? what do you mean? :L ah

Thingaaa wrote:

kerryDETH wrote:

and so floatier on tricks

Floatier? what do you mean? :L ah

its easy to handle.

by floatier i think he means they sort of stay on your fingers longer.

I like my 4 ply deck because its so light and super thin. but with that, you also sacrifice strength. if you dont use the right glue, itll feel pretty fragile. i prefer 5 plies only for their pop and their solidity.

They stay in the air longer because they are lighter.

I'm experimenting with 4ply's at the moment. I used to ride ShineWoods, which were 4ply decks, until i started making my own.
I've made myself a 4ply now, but i dont really like it. It is way too light for me. I'm trying to do the kicks differently now.

I love 4 ply decks. I make 4,5, and 6 ply decks, but I have always been a fan of 4 ply decks. They are just so nice to use.

I started on heavy zshred board and now use a maze M5 which is 5 ply I believe but it is amazing,my other main setup at the moment is a hesh deck and I like it as well but never looked at plys,Think I will right now :roll: it also depends on what thickness of veneer you are using as well as far as weight goes,That was the problem with the zshred just to thick and bulky.

5 Ply characteristics:
- Heavier, requiring more effort to flip tricks and get air
- Increased control do to added weight
- Slower flips
- Tighter and more stable pop
- stronger, completely stiff

4 Ply:
- More pop, but less stable
- Decreased weight allows for easier flipping speed
- requires better control
- slightly flexible, weaker when heavy pressure is applied.

I personally enjoy all the 4 plies ive owned more than the 5 plies, but each of them require different things from the rider, and each suits different people.

I have a 4 ply Homewood and an Evolve.
They are just as thick as 5 ply decks.
They also have the most pop I've ever felt out of any deck I've used.
I've had 5 ply's that have felt like mush, I've had 4 ply's that feel heavier than 5 ply...my point?

There are different variables, the glue, veneer thickness, veneer, mold pressure, clear coat... I don't think it's right to say 4 ply decks are like this.....or 5 ply decks are like that, just try it out!

Good point Dave.

Ye I have veneer that is 1 mm thick, so I could make liek a three ply deck that is thicker than a 5 ply!

^exactly!

I think Justin and Jader use something that is slightly thicker than 1/64" so the decks come out thicker.

Also, never forget to cross ply, I think that is a given anymore but that will definitely affect the pop

4 ply decks <3 Its the shit.

Dave C wrote:

^exactly!

I think Justin and Jader use something that is slightly thicker than 1/64" so the decks come out thicker.

Also, never forget to cross ply, I think that is a given anymore but that will definitely affect the pop

1/42nd is the standard veneer thickness. 1/32nd is probably the thickness you are thinking of.

4 ply is good, but I personally prefer 5 ply ( I ride 4 ply though XD )
5 ply:
MORE POP
Doesn't stay in the air as long

4 ply:
Lighter, making them go higher. Although 5 plys have more pop, this makes up for it.
Stays in the air longer.

Aren't flaked 4 plys anyone ?

Yes I think most flakes are 4 plies!