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PostSubject: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySat May 12, 2012 9:18 pm

so Ive been meaning to do this for a few days...Ive had them setup on my main for like 2 weeks now, and i feel Ive given them a thorough workout....so here goes.

first impressions.

actually i was impressed by the look of them. the casting wasn't as great as the pictures you see from tech deck, but i expected this, after all they are mass produced trucks, so quality is not a strong point. one thing i noticed was that the room on the axle for each wheel was huge. really huge. i guess this way when they are made the wheels are guaranteed to fit onto the axles and spin with no problems....but maybe an extra millimeter each axle taken away would be nice.

the trucks seemed sturdy and strong.looking at them i didn't think i was going to have any of the problems faced with older gen tech deck trucks.

the indy logo on the hangar is a nice touch, and the shape of the hangars are really nice. also the baseplates are a redesigned shape too, with a white pivot cup.


performance

OK here's where things get interesting. i will say that i got these trucks from a trade, so i received the bare trucks, no extras like bushings/screws. other than that they were new.

before setting them up i felt they needed tuning. i put teflon bushings on each plate, an inverted kingpin (got rid of the original one). also i filed quite a bit of extra thread off the end of each axle with a dremmel type tool. the reason for this was the bare axle was too long, and it was quite sharp, and would dent most wooden surfaces no problems....(not good if your seshing your parents dining table....unless your pro and no primo)

also as the trucks didn't come with screws, i had to find my own. judging by the size of the holes on the plates, tech deck trucks still come with their own thin screws. i had a set of these, so i used them and they worked fine. i wouldn't recommended trying to wedge BRT sized screw in the plates, or the black screws that come with all the mass produced trucks on the market.

now they are pretty much ready to roll.

i use oak wheels, and because of the huge space on each axle for the wheels i decided to use 2 micro washers with each wheel. (so 8 in total) this made the trucks that much more solid with less wheel wobble).

i did try the trucks with other wheels, i would say dual type wheels would work the best. (as the bearing touches the hangar). if used with single bearing wheels, i could see the hangar chewing the backs of the wheels up a bit.....a small file sorts this, or the micro washers.

setup was easy, tuning etc. all good.

performance (really)

Ive used them like i would use any other truck, so here's my opinion.

i actually like them. I'm quite content with them.....the metal is the same cheap rubbish that all the cheap trucks use, so grinding metal/concrete will really eat away at them, also the grinding sensation is not the best...compared to grinding BRT's say. i think the new pivot cup really helps. it makes them turn more solidly, and i think the actual truck design is alright. (they turn well etc etc).

so far the hangar has not bent from hardcore use....i will say that the axles are now starting to move around, meaning they are falling away from the hangar (these trucks are not single axle...probably the biggest disappointment in cheap trucks). also after changing my wheels a few times (different oaks of course) i noticed i stripped the thread on one of the axles...Ive left it alone since, and have not tightened it no more. i can see the start of a dip showing on the hangars from grinding. this is due to the cheap alloy. luckily none of the axles have popped from the hangar just yet, but i feel its only a matter of time.


overall

they are what they are. cheap trucks, but cheap trucks with a nice pleasing design aspect. my major problem with them is the axles. firstly they are too long. so much so that they stick out too far on your setup, and that the axles just fall out after use. other than that they are quite good.

i will say that these are really light, ALOT lighter than any other extra wide truck. for me this is a plus. i can really notice the weight difference compared to say wide BRT's. but this is mainly due to the poor material they are made with and the lack of single axles.

they would be easy to shape (with a file/dremmel) so in the future i can see some cool looking ones pop up on FBHQ/FFI etc. they would look nice painted also.

generally i think tech deck has done a good job with these. its a step in the right direction...OK, they are not pro trucks, but you can see tech deck has obviously listened to feedback, and had an ear to the ground with the scene. anyone who cannot afford wide BRTs would be happy with a set of these. they suffice......just dont expect them to last long with constant fingerboarding.

at the end of the day these trucks are not 'pro' trucks. i think they could be a real good quality alternative, but they need single axles and a better alloy.....if that ever happened and they were inexpensive i could see them doing well as a fingerboarders truck.



if i have missed anything or run on like a drug induced fool or you have any questions, be my guest.



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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySat May 12, 2012 9:22 pm

wow haven't really seen these around. nice review Ross happy
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i wonder if we can pull out the pressed in axles on them and drill out the hanger a little bit more to use bearing screws in them ?

if you do happen to have an axle fall out of them eventually - it would be cool to test this idea and see how they work like that.

just gota figure out what size drill bit is correct to elongate the inner axle hole for the bearing screw to work properly. i shall visit my local ace hardware store with a set of un used bearing screw trucks to find this out and get the correct size drill bit - as i realley think this truck - using the long bearing screws for axles would be the best for cheap long term solution
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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySun May 13, 2012 5:10 am

I really love the look of the trucks shame they dont last long nice review though happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySun May 13, 2012 11:16 am

sick review, Ross i thought that looks like Brr trucks. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySun May 13, 2012 2:30 pm

i will add that i have given these trucks a battering. Ive only ridden them for around 2 weeks, but Ive had my park in that time so Ive been putting in a good few hours a day.

Brian, the bearing screw idea could work, but all the times ive tried it seems to be more hassle than its really worth...

once the axles pop out on the hangars, you are left with a fairly big hole. and because the axles have wobbled their way out it only makes the hole in the hangar bigger and more deformed.

also the bearing screws are actually alot thinner than the hole on the hangars. the old way of installing them was to glue them in the hangars, so its not possible to change the wheels. also you have to use a glue which is strong enough to hold the bearing screws in place, so you know once thats dried the only way to get your wheels off is to break the bearing screws buy turning them. (they are very thin and snap with forced turning)...

the only 'decent' way i could see of tuning them with bearing screws would be to take the old axles out of the hangars, fill the hangar with some sort of epoxy perhaps, let it dry. then drill the correct sized hole down each hangar with a drill bit on a drill press....simple you might think? think again. it can be done, sure, but you need a decent drill press, not a cheap one with tons of wobble...then b4 you drill you have to make sure your axle is set up in place, at the right angle etc.....i could go on.....but you see what i mean? tongue

then after all them shenanigans, say you did do it all correctly....id doubt the trucks would last much longer because then the hangar would bend...with the extra weight from the glue etc.

finding out the correct sized drill bit would be alot simpler than going down to your local DIY store too if you had a caliper wink

so....dont take my word for it....what do i know? try it yourselves!

i could see the positioning the bearing screws in the hangars method while the glue dries working, but thats alot of faffing around too...and only a quick fix.....ultimately in the end the cheap alloy of the trucks is going to let them down eventually....

they are what they are...they are nice....but by noway a real fingerboarders truck thats designed to last and take abuse.

and thanks for the comments guys!
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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySun May 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Back in the days where TD axles popped out every 3 tricks, we used to put pivot tubing in the axle holes to make the bearing screws fit. Worked fine for me.

But unless you get some good bearings screws (the ones substance wheels came with were great) they will bend.
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i cant wait for the td longboards to hit the shelves in the usa happy
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@blosom/ross they have hit the UK pal you can get them from sainsburys i am getting 2 on monday they are 8 quid!
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have they really? oh cool. ill have to check some of the shops locally next time im in town.
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blosom wrote:
have they really? oh cool. ill have to check some of the shops locally next time im in town.

yeah man happy
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callumfb95 wrote:
@blosom/ross they have hit the UK pal you can get them from sainsburys i am getting 2 on monday they are 8 quid!

I need to check my toys stores...
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PostSubject: Re: Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review   Tech Deck extra wide Independant trucks review EmptySat May 26, 2012 2:24 pm

cheers

They had them at smyths The bushing arnt that bad nicely shaped etc only problem was how cheap the hangers feel.
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SOMEONE GET ME SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS
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I'am going to buy one tommarow. cheers
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BobSilver wrote:
SOMEONE GET ME SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS

maybe if you send me cim £cash I can get you some or just check amazon.
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one more thing these trucks wont work on close up metal cores..

It keeps falling off.
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I can't send pounds noel and with shipping from amazon it costs like 20$
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wow thats alot.
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figured id post here - i just got a couple td longboards from my local store. there is a bit of exessive room on the axle shafts for wheels - i might experement a little bit to tighten up the slop in the wheels from that - but totaly worth the 4 dollars they cost - also the majority of the bushings that came in them were over tightened by the factory - and were smushed pretty much - but the conical washers are nice - and there is plenty of room on the kingpin thread to have them as loose as you could possibly want.

recomended - using a dremel tool sanding bit to trim down the extra leingth of the kingpins once you get them where you like them - so they dont poke down in the way of doing grinds.

also a side note = they seem like they might be the slightest bit taller than normal trucks. so ...
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