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raymond
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PostSubject: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 4:02 am

Hey all. So apparently there has been some beef with me. Read below, all or nothing.

I'll give it to ya straight.
I'm not a very positive person. After having a dramatic change in my
life about a year and half ago(which I am not willing to talk about)something changed in the way I view myself as a person. From then on, I have never been really
positive about much. I only see the negative in pretty much everything
and skateboarding and fingerboarding are what makes me feel real. I
figured. Hey this negativeness could go wrong by. Well you guys. Saying
bad things and just ganging up and all that kids shizz or I could help
young deck makers or fingerboarders help em improve. I am a
perfectionist and with that being said everything has to be fine in
detail. I see the wrong in some decks so I say "hey that looks like
shit. Fix that fix that fix that". Sorry if I seem to come out a dick by
saying such statements but it's really how I am.

Now I am not
attacking I am just saying hey do this do this, this is what I do. Yo
bud it could help you. And you guys think I am promoting my company by
saying "ohhh do what I do". No bro. That's not what I am doing. Don't
you understand that? I could really care about competition or other
companies. I don't keep in the detes about companies cause I could give a
f, really. I'm not going to pay attention to their products. I focus on doing me and that's that. I only
really post when I see something is wrong. That may be why you guys
think this. I'm not a positive poster usually. Except on videos.

You
guys need to accept that and it really is kind of a good thing. People
need criticism to grow up. I've been making decks for my share's worth
of time. People need criticism more than compliments in my opinion. To
be successful in life you need confidence, security, and to overall be a
strong person holding all your thoughts; in control. I am a very mature
person in my opinion and I was forced to grow up fast, real quick. Hey, everyone needs work. I do need to work on
being more positive to you guys because I can see it is doing damage.
You really should be a little more security to not take anything I say as
an attack. I am a sincere person. I have given away more decks than I
have ever sold in my life. I don't know what that tells you but it sure does tell you something. I care about the community and where it's headed or else I'd just be a 4c and post only to promote.

You can't really hate on that. So if I
must and I believe I think it's appropriate. Sorry for imaging myself as a dick,
asshole, arsehole, bunghole, whatever hole. Sincerely. I don't want to
be viewed that way. I'm trying really hard on my company and am having
some really big things happening in the shop.

My apologizes. Now that you probably semi-understand, please accept. Danny too. Max, everyone. This is fingerboarding.

There is no room for hate. I remember 4 and a half years ago when I was basically first introduced to deck making. I loved it. I felt the love, the grace. Popped up on fingerboard headquarters. Kinna felt it for a while then couldn't make up my mind on a company name, yadayada.

Now I'm here. "Feel the love or fuck off". I know in my posts, you might not feel the love, but understand that that is me saying hey you need to improve on this that, whatever. Not really. We're in this community together. All brothers/seesters. All have fun. My typing is a little strict but I am a pretty straightforward person and do enjoy the little things in life. Most of you have never played a skype skate with me or anything like that so you really only know me from my text.

It seems like these type of posts from people hit the heart for like.... a couple weeks then it starts up again. I would really like for this to be a change of heart, in everyone. Support everyone an be cool. Don't be fake about it but hey present your critisizm in a nicer way. I sure know that that's what I am going to do. I know I only am on here maybe 1nce or twice a day so I feel like I have to cram my days worth of posts in hardly a few minutes. So I might not fully think of the other person's feelings. Something ya gotta work on and I'm setting the --------- for me aswell.

Now you can't really hate on that. If you don't accept it fine. Be that way, really. I'm apologizing. If you don't even have the decency to take back what you have said or say you're sorry as-well (if you truly are) or accept my apology. Then that's your own problem.

So let's have fun. I support and promote everyone. Have fun with it.
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 4:36 am

tl;dr
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 4:43 am

<3
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raymond
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 4:43 am

Not fully sure on what that means dood.

And thanks zeb<3
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Ryan
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 4:46 am

Glad to see you've come around man happy
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 5:21 am

Hey, from my point of view, it's just when you said:

Forgiven wrote:
Man. I'm not going to even comment. You spelled "veneer" like vener. You probably don't even know what that is. You and your dad are probably in it for money.

Man.... People don't accept that.
They really don't. I am starting to make ramps/obstacles as-well along with my 4+ years of experience already in deck making.

I would give you advice but....

Keep posting. Get to be known. Be friendly. Then post some pictures of your decks/ramps/ whatever really.

Then you'll receive some good comments.

I think the immediate assumption of them being in it for the money may have been unnecessary. I thought the original post was well structured so I'd be waiting on seeing pictures but don't want to put them off from making things.

But I do appreciate the post. I accept this and say we should move on.

Let us just all enjoy our uses of our fingers, be they for artistic, communicative or sexual purposes.
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 5:24 am

Xi wrote:
Let us just all enjoy our uses of our fingers, be they for artistic, communicative or sexual purposes.

Fingerboarding is just off-field practice for me... cool
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 7:14 am

Yeah, I can accept this, I see your point, its just the way you put across your criticism, why not just say it in a nice way?
But like I said, I see your reasons and stuff but we're all here cause we enjoy fingerboarding, so let's just do that.
And yeah, I'm sorry for being a dick to you, I guess I just don't like to see people...get pushed around? It's probably not the right term, but I think you get what I mean happy
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 9:23 am

Forgiven wrote:
1nce

So I was totally cool reading this until I read that. WHY WOULD ANYONE WRITE THAT!!!? IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASIER AT ALL. Infact you've got to go out of your way to press a number, so its a hinderance. *shakes head*

I feel that you're often too harsh, and that way crosses the border of criticism, but hey, you've got 1ne more chance, haha..
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 11:29 am

Danny Hynam wrote:
Yeah, I can accept this, I see your point, its just the way you put across your criticism, why not just say it in a nice way?
But like I said, I see your reasons and stuff but we're all here cause we enjoy fingerboarding, so let's just do that.
And yeah, I'm sorry for being a dick to you, I guess I just don't like to see people...get pushed around? It's probably not the right term, but I think you get what I mean happy

Thanks man!!

And kerry, I did it for you. ;p.
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 12:50 pm

I just think there's a difference between sugar coating criticism and harshly shooting down people's hopes and dreams.

But it showed you are a big man with this post, good job <3 happy
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 1:26 pm

TheMattigan wrote:
I just think there's a difference between sugar coating criticism and harshly shooting down people's hopes and dreams.

But it showed you are a big man with this post, good job <3 happy
Yup yup
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PostSubject: Re: A letter to you   A letter to you EmptyThu Dec 15, 2011 4:23 pm

TheMattigan wrote:
I just think there's a difference between sugar coating criticism and harshly shooting down people's hopes and dreams.

But it showed you are a big man with this post, good job <3 happy

Exactly.

And compliments can go farther than criticism, too, a lot of the time. If someone works hard on something, sometimes the best thing to do is to say "Good job."

They'll take that, feel good, and continue to work hard.
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