thomashines wrote:

Ironfingers wrote:

^^ what makes them better,
Trucks are trucks in moat cases right??

Copied from kerrydeath

other brand name that aren't brrs + ys are just basically the same as td trucks. Made in exactly the same way, just, in different factories, or packaged by different people. Sometimes shaped, but, thats mostly aesthetic.

BRR + Ytrucks have many advantages. I'll list all I can think of in order of importance for me.
1) single axle. Td trucks often have the little axle the wheel goes on bend, wobble, or fall out completely. Happened on my td wides soo often. Single axle trucks don't have this problem, as the axle is held in place by the wheels in a way, as well as them being designed on brrs + ys better so they don't come out easily like on td trucks.
2) loose riding is possible. Td trucks I find wobble and fall apart if you have them anything but tight. I don't like my brrs uber loose, but, looser than what I can have td trucks.
3) more pop. Because of point 2 above, they don't loose pop when ridden loose.
4) turning. Again with loose trucks, they centre themselves after turning rather than staying lopsided, so your ride is always centred and nice.
5) Better to grind on. The material slides WAYY nicer than on td trucks.
6) kingpin doesn't stick out. On td trucks the kingpin gets in the way of grinding. Doesn't happen on brrs/ys.
7) Looks. Lets face it, td trucks are the most horrible shape. BRRs look pretty much like indy skate trucks, and Ys pretty similar to destructo and/or royal skate trucks.
8 ) No need to tune. TDs need special new bushings, pivot cups, sometimes kingpins and bearing screws are used.. all that is WAYY too fiddly for me.
9) Easy to set up and use. Coupled with above point, td need fiddling around, brrs and ys you just screw the wheels on and roll away smooth.

Hope thats answered your question

Great read thanks for that, I just meant why did James think ys were better than brts.., but that was an informative read

Ironfingers wrote:

thomashines wrote:

Ironfingers wrote:

^^ what makes them better,
Trucks are trucks in moat cases right??

Copied from kerrydeath

other brand name that aren't brrs + ys are just basically the same as td trucks. Made in exactly the same way, just, in different factories, or packaged by different people. Sometimes shaped, but, thats mostly aesthetic.

BRR + Ytrucks have many advantages. I'll list all I can think of in order of importance for me.
1) single axle. Td trucks often have the little axle the wheel goes on bend, wobble, or fall out completely. Happened on my td wides soo often. Single axle trucks don't have this problem, as the axle is held in place by the wheels in a way, as well as them being designed on brrs + ys better so they don't come out easily like on td trucks.
2) loose riding is possible. Td trucks I find wobble and fall apart if you have them anything but tight. I don't like my brrs uber loose, but, looser than what I can have td trucks.
3) more pop. Because of point 2 above, they don't loose pop when ridden loose.
4) turning. Again with loose trucks, they centre themselves after turning rather than staying lopsided, so your ride is always centred and nice.
5) Better to grind on. The material slides WAYY nicer than on td trucks.
6) kingpin doesn't stick out. On td trucks the kingpin gets in the way of grinding. Doesn't happen on brrs/ys.
7) Looks. Lets face it, td trucks are the most horrible shape. BRRs look pretty much like indy skate trucks, and Ys pretty similar to destructo and/or royal skate trucks.
8 ) No need to tune. TDs need special new bushings, pivot cups, sometimes kingpins and bearing screws are used.. all that is WAYY too fiddly for me.
9) Easy to set up and use. Coupled with above point, td need fiddling around, brrs and ys you just screw the wheels on and roll away
smooth.
Hope thats answered your question

Great read thanks for that, I just meant why did James think ys were better than brts.., but that was an informative read

O lol I thought u meant why pro trucks were better in general bc u said trucks are trucks. But I also posted this because of the answer Xavier gave which was " bc they are professional" and I wanted to say what that really means

Are all berlinwoods one width? I don't see an option to select a width and there are no details on the site itself...
I would get one if they done like 31 or 32

whats better "nolliewheels runabouts" or "winkler blackriver edition?

Winkler!
Nollie is the worst company haha

Winkler wheels.

Nollie wheels are JELLY.FU haters

Peter.A wrote:

Nollie wheels are JELLY.FU haters

you clearly don't understand what they have done.

Winkler Wheels are soo much better than Nollie..... What you asked is common sense.

Ironfingers wrote:

Are all berlinwoods one width? I don't see an option to select a width and there are no details on the site itself...
I would get one if they done like 31 or 32

The publically available Berlinwoods are all 29mm I think. There are wider versions but they aren't obtained by normal means.

Once the concave soggs, it'll become about 29.5 30mm

i have some drex winklers white

i need 1 more wheel.. what do you think i could trade for 1?

and i didn't know winklers were hard, i thought they were soft like urethane... are the other wheels hard?

Xi wrote:

Ironfingers wrote:

Are all berlinwoods one width? I don't see an option to select a width and there are no details on the site itself...
I would get one if they done like 31 or 32

The publically available Berlinwoods are all 29mm I think. There are wider versions but they aren't obtained by normal means.

Thanks for the info..
What do you think my chances are of getting one??

Also on another note what are the softest fb wheels, I was gonna get winklers
But have just read that they are hard, I'm looking for a softer wheel

yeah they are one of the hardest out there. but i love them

Look for Oak v2's, they're soft and sturdy.

that's what i thought winklers were soft wheels.

but mines seem to be hard as a rock.

they are winklers because the graphic has worn off and they have bearings.

xavier l. wrote:

that's what i thought winklers were soft wheels.

but mines seem to be hard as a rock.

they are winklers because the graphic has worn off and they have bearings.

Winklers don't have graphics do they? o.o

Ironfingers wrote:

Xi wrote:

Ironfingers wrote:

Are all berlinwoods one width? I don't see an option to select a width and there are no details on the site itself...
I would get one if they done like 31 or 32

The publically available Berlinwoods are all 29mm I think. There are wider versions but they aren't obtained by normal means.

Thanks for the info..
What do you think my chances are of getting one??

Also on another note what are the softest fb wheels, I was gonna get winklers
But have just read that they are hard, I'm looking for a softer wheel

Chances of getting one before a public release (if there is one at all) is rather low. I'm not sure how many people in the UK have one, if any at all. They are usually obtained from the team members themselves. Kerry and Thom would probably give a good answer to this question.

If you're looking at soft wheels, Close Up and Oak do urethane wheels. I personally prefer the Close Up ones to Oak V2s and RVs. Even though I am sponsored by Close Up, I had my first set back in 2008 and had been riding them for a while. The main reason I think Close Up wheels are better than Oak is because of the Oak wheels shape on all of their models leave the truck axles exposed and it would scratch up my desk a bit if I rode them. Their earlier models also had a bit of bumpiness to them.

well alex said that they had a graphic on them.. i was a little fuzzy on that also.




i hope they are winklers.

xavier l. wrote:

well alex said that they had a graphic on them.. i was a little fuzzy on that also.




i hope they are winklers.

Can't be winklers if they have a graphic on them. Unless he put one on them

xavier l. wrote:

that's what i thought winklers were soft wheels.

but mines seem to be hard as a rock.

they are winklers because the graphic has worn off and they have bearings.

Do you mean oak graphic wheels?

how long is shiping from us to uk

like 1 1/2 weeks.

8 days usually. For my packages.

hmm okay its been 8 days so far

noelboy225 wrote:

how long is shiping from us to uk

Can be as short as 1 week or as long as a month.

I've ordered a lot of stuff from the US and most of the things come after a week to a week and a half. I think there was one order that took 2 weeks and the longest wait I had was for an order from No Comply that took a month and me and Todd were emailing each other like crazy to see wtf was up. Another order from No Comply only took 11 days so I still don't know why that first one took a month.

...and if someone is scamming you, then the time is infinite