ok, actually i do like you tyler. You post some good stuff for the forum. Then one day something happens and you go all menstrual about it. Just forget it. Please.

Nobody gives a shit anymore aha..

Anyway, Tyler. Nobody wants to back you up, so please cut the crap now.

LEARN TO LET THINGS GO.

If you don't think things are fair, feel free to leave, to ffi, where people get openly flamed and nobody does a thing about it, that's fair.

Billy Mackean wrote:

ok, actually i do like you tyler. You post some good stuff for the forum. Then one day something happens and you go all menstrual about it. Just forget it. Please.

Nobody gives a shit anymore aha..

Billy, I'm sorry you feel that way. If you want to PM me and let me know whats bothering you, please do so.

Danny Hynam wrote:

Anyway, Tyler. Nobody wants to back you up, so please cut the crap now.

LEARN TO LET THINGS GO.

If you don't think things are fair, feel free to leave, to ffi, where people get openly flamed and nobody does a thing about it, that's fair.

I see about 5 votes no and about 5 votes kinda. That is about 35-40% of the people who have voted. Like I said, they wont speak up cause you guys make harsh comments, as some of you have already done to me.

I'll stop now, before you ban me AGAIN.

I think Danny put it perfectly well, there are no set structures to how bans are laid out, it depends on the circumstances and how severe they are. If there are multiple severe offences then that will lead to a perma, or perhaps a perma straight away. While we're on the subject of James, his offences have been very petty to say the least, and the 12 day ban for posting pornography is more than justified.

Ive been here for ages and never been banned

TylerE wrote:

Billy Mackean wrote:

ok, actually i do like you tyler. You post some good stuff for the forum. Then one day something happens and you go all menstrual about it. Just forget it. Please.

Nobody gives a shit anymore aha..

Billy, I'm sorry you feel that way. If you want to PM me and let me know whats bothering you, please do so.

Why would i PM you.. that would prolong the saga..


all i'm saying is:

let. it. go.


P.S Thom and Danny are 100% right.

I edited my post, please read it.

Tyler just let it go man. Holding on to this is making everybody get sick of you.

And I voted Kind of. Then after I carefully read all the post's for the 3rd time I think things are fair now.

Please note: I am writing this at 8am, having not had a decent sleep so this post may be structured very poorly with critical points missing. By reading this, you agree that I cannot be held responsible for any brain damage or herpaderpaderppppp

Well, I was waiting for posts on this thread before I'd post a reply. I didn't want me posting discourage any honest comments and feedback about the way things are run around here.

As a moderator, I was never seriously interested in obtaining this position to maintain the order of the forum. My unusual sleep pattern and recent move to a GMT+8 timezone has made it more accessible for me to reinforce the gap in timezone coverage in the FBHQ mod team which was why I decided to give it a go (although I have been an admin at a much bigger forum before). I've usually been relatively passive and I do relatively very little moderating on here. For a lot of serious decisions, there are threads in the hidden FBHQ staff forums to discuss them.

Whether the fact that I am a moderator makes my opinion considered biased or not, I honestly have full confidence and trust in the mod team here. Kerry does a great job as an admin here despite also running Unite, modding FFI and generally having a life. The actual headcount of my banhammer isn't that great, I just throw out a few Holden/Jerry bans, temp Chatbox bans and other obvious bans. We still intend to expand our mod team too further maintain FBHQ as a great fingerboarding forum with faster mod action and a system with more input into bigger decisions. Thom makes a great point that bans are different for each case depending on many factors, without considering these factors, it may be cause to think things unfair resulting in a thread such as this.

One other thing I would like to point out is this... on a forum I was an admin on, the users were generally of my generation which meant that we all matured, leaving the forum to be a very fun place with relatively little moderation needed. Now with the majority of users in a younger generation, perhaps this is unrealistic to achieve for a while. The main point here is that if you just don't start shit, us mods won't have to lock threads, delete posts, write warnings or hand out bans and we'd have a great place.

Recently, I've considered Tyler's posts to be potentially damaging to the closeness of the community. If he had not had Kerry's approval for this thread, I would have seen it as a deliberate attempt to stir up shit and an active gesture of disapproval of the system. I see FBHQ as a very welcoming place, our community is friendly and registration is permanently open for new members. We don't force people to come here but hope that users come here because they want to and because they enjoy it.

Automatically assuming that we will be banning you and posting about it certainly won't help your case. I like FBHQ to be open to people who want to be on it and deserve to be on it (pretty much everyone) but I am getting the impression perhaps you don't want to be here. I don't believe that the FBHQ staff are in the wrong and if you're still genuinely unhappy with FBHQ, you're welcome to leave. A majority of people still like it here and there is no point creating all this negativaty for people who enjoy FBHQ.

Miaow.

Im going to cut to the chase here; Tyler this is a dumb thread, all your doing is starting un-needed drama. Secondly, stop being a butt hurt bitch about the fact that you got banned for 2 days and man up OR go buy yourself a tampon.

Oh and Billy, I love you haha your posts cracked me up.

SovietRussiaSam wrote:

Im going to cut to the chase here; Tyler this is a dumb thread, all your doing is starting un-needed drama. Secondly, stop being a butt hurt bitch about the fact that you got banned for 2 days and man up OR go buy yourself a tampon.

Oh and Billy, I love you haha your posts cracked me up.

i entirely agree with this guy.

thanks man

Billy Mackean wrote:

SovietRussiaSam wrote:

Im going to cut to the chase here; Tyler this is a dumb thread, all your doing is starting un-needed drama. Secondly, stop being a butt hurt bitch about the fact that you got banned for 2 days and man up OR go buy yourself a tampon.

Oh and Billy, I love you haha your posts cracked me up.

i entirely agree with this guy.

Finn S wrote:

Jamesgangordie

Haha. You question why I don't speak to you anymore. lul.

Edit by Xi: l2edit James.

SovietRussiaSam wrote:

Im going to cut to the chase here; Tyler this is a dumb thread, all your doing is starting un-needed drama. Secondly, stop being a butt hurt bitch about the fact that you got banned for 2 days and man up OR go buy yourself a tampon.

Oh and Billy, I love you haha your posts cracked me up.

If you have read any of my previous posts you would know this thread isn't about my ban, it's about people who deserve bans, not getting them. Secondly, take your rude comments elsewhere.
Nice double post James.

I voted kind of, although, honestly, the 12 day ban was totally fair, and a perma ban probably be only used for Holdens, or those who wont stfu in the chat box, and continually post offensive things.

I think James doesn't deserve a perma ban for posting porn, but if he does it again, then yes maybe he should get perma banned.

Right now though, everybody should give each other a cyber-hug, and continue on with life.

Tyler, I know how you feel, honestly. But this matter is out of our hands, and Kerry can do as he pleases, since it is his forum, whether we agree with his choices or not

KingWoodfbs wrote:

I voted kind of, although, honestly, the 12 day ban was totally fair, and a perma ban probably be only used for Holdens, or those who wont stfu in the chat box, and continually post offensive things.

I think James doesn't deserve a perma ban for posting porn, but if he does it again, then yes maybe he should get perma banned.

Right now though, everybody should give each other a cyber-hug, and continue on with life.

Tyler, I know how you feel, honestly. But this matter is out of our hands, and Kerry can do as he pleases, since it is his forum, whether we agree with his choices or not

Thanks for a NICE honest comment.

As far as the part in bold, I know I can't do much. This whole thread was not only for me to see what you guys think, but for Kerry to see. I was emailing him while I was banned, and we talked about making a thread like this.

Your welcome Tyler

I think people need to understand that forums are run by people, not evil robots.

Rules are always being swayed and broken... It's their forums, no one is making you stay around if you don't like their rules. You are here because they let you into the community, just remember it could always be a closed gate kind of thing.

I honestly think bans should be handled at a level that isn't like "ANYONE WHO LICKS A SHIT GETS 8 DAYS OF BANNING, NO MORE, NO LESS." There are just honestly to many levels of severity and what not to just assign random numbers to evil deeds.

I've been running and modding forums for like 4 years now, lots of people talk about how the mods and staff do a shitty job anywhere you go but honestly none of those haters have any idea how much works it takes to run a forum efficiently.

tl;dr version: it's our turf; it's our rules; if you don't like it no one is forcing you to stay here and put up with it... this isn't a democracy where you can elect a new admin for the forum or anything...

lol. I'm guessing even if we voted for a new admin, Kerry would still win.

the mods and Admins here are friendly and fair.

and even if somehow i got on ffi, I'd likely stay here more often. ffi seems uninviting almost....

itt: Tyler getting mad because he thinks that everyone should get banned for silly offences.

TomasM wrote:

itt: Tyler getting mad because he thinks that everyone should get banned for silly offences.

Not at all bro.

Well you are butthurt. Just let it go, man. The mods do a great job of controlling this forum, and are being totally fair. As they have said, if you don't like it, leave, it's that simple.

TomasM wrote:

Well you are butthurt. Just let it go, man. The mods do a great job of controlling this forum, and are being totally fair. As they have said, if you don't like it, leave, it's that simple.

Alright Tomas, w/e you say biqboi

and even if somehow i got on ffi, I'd likely stay here more often. ffi seems uninviting almost....
I AGREE ^