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PostSubject: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 7:43 pm

Hey guys, i wanna start a deck company but first off i have some questions:

1. What wood do you need to use, how thin , what kind is the best

2. what drill bits do i need to use for the holes and the things for the screw heads

3. what is the best glue to use

4. what sandpaper do i need to use to smooth it up

,thanks  happy


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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 7:47 pm

www.google.com really good for finding things out
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 8:22 pm

Companies are not started by buying the materials needed and just making decks to sell. Find out what you need, start out, get it right, then release it tongue
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 8:55 pm

1. Strongest wood is maple, but search around for what type of veneer you like the most..
2. 1/16 for holes 1/8 for countersink
3. Titebond works perfectly fine.
4. If you're planning to sand the whole deck by hand, you will want a pretty rough grit, I usually use 100grit after i sand with a machine, then a finer grit maybe like 150+ to make it nice and smooth.

I don't make professional decks,but I do make them for fun and these are the basics of it.
Don't ask a good way to align holes though, because I don't have a professional mold, and my holes never come out aligned.. never.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 9:07 pm

Thanks guys!!!
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 9:09 pm

Gunner, I know a company isn't started by buying the materials needed and just making decks to sell. but if you don't know what to use there is never going to be an company  tongue
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 9:13 pm

what ducker said, he hasnt released anything yet and how will he if he doesnt know what to use?
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 9:58 pm

Id just suggest not getting focused on making a company as much. Focus on quality first before you even think about a company.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Kuhpopie, it's not about the company. Its about what is needed to make decks. without knowing shit about the holes and wood, it isn't going to work.  happy 
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 10:23 pm

You'll probably find the most information here.
http://www.fingerflipinc.com/forum/index.php?board=8.0
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 10:30 pm

TheMotherDucker wrote:
Hey guys, i wanna start a deck company but first off i have some questions (basicly how theyre made)

TheMotherDucker wrote:
Kuhpopie, it's not about the company. Its about what is needed to make decks. without knowing shit about the holes and wood, it isn't going to work.

Im confused. Thread is made with detailed questions about basic deck making and also an explanation that the information is needed to make a company. Then later stated not for company after all.. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptyFri Jan 31, 2014 10:42 pm

Bakko, i get that you're confused, the tread is about how to make a deck, but i am thinking of making a deck company. the title maybe is a little bit confusing but i want to know what to use to make a deck.
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i changed the title
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 2:06 am

Since nobody else would answer a pretty simple set of questions...
1. You need really thin slices of wood, called veneers. You can buy them off ebay, you can buy some from people here (me included) or you can buy some from a china company like Gator (not recommended)

2. You need to different size bits to make a deck, one to actual drill the holes, and one to countersink. I can't remember exactly what sizes they are but I'm sure you can find them on the link that Ryan gave.

3. Titebond 2 is pretty much the standard for homemade decks.

4. You're going to need a few, if you're hand sanding it it can take awhile. It's kind of personal preference and how smooth you want your decks to be, but I usually do 80 then 100, 120, 180 and 220 that will make it smooothhh

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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 8:05 am

thank you sam  happy 
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 8:16 am

I used Titebond 2 on a homemade deck and let it sit overnight (24 hours) and when I took it out of the mold the kicks were floppy and it lost its shape.

How long do you have to leave the deck in the mold with glue for it to set btw?
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 8:39 am

If you're going to use wood glue, I'd use titebond 3. I pressed a deck between two tech decks with that stuff months ago and it hasn't lost its shape.
When shaping the deck, a disk sander works very quickly, and from there you can hand sand it. Don't really need anything over 300 grit, but the higher you go the smoother and shinier it'll be.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 8:48 am

you need veneer between 0.4-0.6mm preferably if you're making a 5 ply deck
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 9:35 am

That or the measurement is also 1/42 of an inch happy
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 12:21 pm

Pureskate wrote:
I used Titebond 2 on a homemade deck and let it sit overnight (24 hours) and when I took it out of the mold the kicks were floppy and it lost its shape.

How long do you have to leave the deck in the mold with glue for it to set btw?

Pureskate, you didn't have it clamped hard enough then. I use plain Titebond, because there is no difference in stength between the 3, and all my decks come out really crisp and firm, not floppy at all. You just need to make sure that they are clamped really tightly, (preferably with a vise) and take the deck out between 12-24 hours. That's what I do.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 12:43 pm

but the normal titebond isn't water resistant, what if your deck falls is a puddle of water ?
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 12:49 pm

thats why you put laquer of clearcoat on the deck because:
1. It shields the deck from water getting into the wood
2. It makes the deck shiny and makes it look aesthetically pleasing
3. It makes the surface of your deck hard and smooth so that when you slide on an obstacle you a smooth slide.

But im pretty sure if you dropped any deck in a puddle it would be ruined, im not sure though cause ive never dropped a deck in a puddle.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 12:51 pm

that makes sense.
an other question, should i use clear coat or wood laquer?
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 1:01 pm

idk what you have around where you live but most people use the stuff that is sprayable and not like wood varnish. I use a clear spray-on polyurethane made for wood that is hard wearing and is resistant to scuffs.
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PostSubject: Re: how to make a Deck Questions    how to make a Deck Questions  EmptySat Feb 01, 2014 1:14 pm

Yeah, what LazyFingers said. I only use Titebond because it's right for me. If you do a lot of outdoor fingerboarding, where there might be water, then Titebond 2 or 3 might be better for you. I don't really have any good outdoor spots so I fingerboard indoors more, which is why I use Titebond. It's the cheapest of the 3, too happy
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