kerryDETH wrote:

^NO. A body varial is just turning your body. if you tre, and turn your body bs180 its a bigflip.

a tre plus an extra 180 board turn AND body turn = bigger flip. So in essence a 540 flip with a body varial is a bigger flip. In the same sense, 720 is biggest flip.

But as has been said, the best bigflips don't go tre + sexchange, its more like a bigspin in how it flows round.

Okay, thanks for helping me get that straightened out. I always called it a bigflip, but I was also aware that a bigflip is usually done turning the same rotation that the board is. I never could get the one direction down when I was learning it skating, but the opposite direction came naturally. It looks odd and I never see very many people do it that way, but it's pretty much my favorite flip trick. Just needed some clarification. Thanks guys.

oh you're turning the OPPOSITE way? Thats not a bigflip, and thats not a body varial. opposite way turning body to turning board = sex change. that would be simply a tre sex change. I don't know if it has a name, maybe a 360 twisted flip? as a varial sex change is a twisted flip.

okey...

if you tre and turn your body bs 180 its a bigflip.

so whats a tre with a fs 180

kerryDETH wrote:

oh you're turning the OPPOSITE way? Thats not a bigflip, and thats not a body varial. opposite way turning body to turning board = sex change. that would be simply a tre sex change. I don't know if it has a name, maybe a 360 twisted flip? as a varial sex change is a twisted flip.

I know, that's what I said when I posted the question. 360 flip (tre flip) with a sex change

Mattoxx_96 wrote:

if you tre and turn your body bs 180 its a bigflip.

so whats a tre with a fs 180

I thought that both would be considered a bigflip, but I didn't know for sure which is why I asked. xP

Kerry, what would a 1080 rotation be called then? if a 720 is a biggest flip

Danny Hynam wrote:

Kerry, what would a 1080 rotation be called then? if a 720 is a biggest flip

haha, good question. Would be an epic trick xD

Oooo! Epic flip! haha

Danny Hynam wrote:

Kerry, what would a 1080 rotation be called then? if a 720 is a biggest flip

Let's wait for someone to land it first haha. Then they can decide what it's called.

a biggerest flip? XD
but, yes, I don't think anyone can 1080 flip, let alone bodyvarial with it

even if someone did do one it would be flukey and not proper
would be epic though;D

hahaha what about a 720 doubleflip bs 360 sex change??? =)

How bout them bs flips! Ya!

i know i have asked this before but no one really gave me a decent answer

whats the difference between Y-trucks and BRT's

im preferably waiting for Xi to give me a really good paragraph on the differences (if he has tried them both that is)

both are single axle

both are purpose designed for fingerboarding

brr have normal kingpins, ys have inverted

brrs have purpose made bushings in shape and material, ys just got a nice material o ring.

brrs have a purpose made in shape and material pivot piece, ys just use a nice material version of pivot cups that is slightly purpose made.

brrs have their own speical wheels and are the best combination to truely allow the wheel to spin fully on the bearing, ys can use all wheels, but you're not getting as smooth a ride unless you use the very few centralised dual bearing wheels in existence, which are more expensive. Or oak wheels.

both have locknuts

as of x3 ytrucks, both are basically the same weight (old ys were heavier)

as of brr 2.0s, both have no problems with baseplates


its preference overall, but I think brrs turn nicer. just my preference though

thanks kerry:D

one thing, considering i use medium-loose trucks which is better for that
or doesnt it really matter

BRRs + TKYs in my books are heaven for anything from medium loose to super loose, they survive fairly tightened and give you a really solid medium truck. Although I ride medium loose I had them medium at first and they were fine.

I know its 55 euros, but beyond worth it.

So TKY's is the key.. :lol: I can't ride super loose on my BRT's because the lock nut is already popping out on the hanger when I set it on loose. On Y's you can set it up as loose as you want because is has inverted kingpin and Y's has a different mounting screws which you'll need to have a specific allen key that's included when you buy one.

1 thing I don't like about Y's is that the axle screw is a lil bit long even if it has a lock nut and its kinda damaging my furnitures. On the other side, BRT's rad red has a poor paint job (unless if you get super silver).

It's not glossy at all compared to the pics all over the web and it easily tears off, But it doesn't affect the performance. Which when wears off it looks like a real skateboard IMO. But the bottom line, both of them are great but for me, I have to agree with kerry BRT's has an edge because they require to have a specialized wheels for their trucks and it has an amazing feel when you ride.

is the bollie trucks on blackriver and flatface 3.0?

FBS O ringz
the hard, medium and soft bushing
has anyone tried them
if so can you give me a bit information if there good or not

and what are the best bushing to buy

So i'm getting a new board for christmas and my budget is the same as last year, €20 for 1 complete and €35 if i wanted 2 completes. I'm thinking about 4corners because I heard that they are good and cheap and if I buy 2, I get an extra deck. Do you have better ideas? I think that I maybe can trade this third deck for something new, or sell it, or keep it as an extra deck. I hope you can help me.

Mattoxx_96 wrote:

i know i have asked this before but no one really gave me a decent answer

whats the difference between Y-trucks and BRT's

im preferably waiting for Xi to give me a really good paragraph on the differences (if he has tried them both that is)

Kerry's covered it pretty well but I actually prefer Ys than BRTs. The inverted kingpin is great as it's suitable for going really loose or really tight. The bushings that come with Ys are awesome as they allow turning and always snap back to the middle, the ones that come with BRTs are pretty hard.

Flemishguy wrote:

So i'm getting a new board for christmas and my budget is the same as last year, €20 for 1 complete and €35 if i wanted 2 completes. I'm thinking about 4corners because I heard that they are good and cheap and if I buy 2, I get an extra deck. Do you have better ideas? I think that I maybe can trade this third deck for something new, or sell it, or keep it as an extra deck. I hope you can help me.

Do not buy 4c! Support proper fingerboarding, not asshole china companies just selling mass produced shit at a huge profit and not giving anything back to fingerboarding.

20 euros for a complete does limit you otherwise.. I'd maybe go for a redemption deck, wide trucks (available from many places), and stick with tech deck wheels or any other wheels you have.

20 euros wont get you a complete unless you miss out on the wheels or trucks
and use tech deck wheels or trucks
yeah redemption all the way

kerryDETH wrote:

Flemishguy wrote:

So i'm getting a new board for christmas and my budget is the same as last year, €20 for 1 complete and €35 if i wanted 2 completes. I'm thinking about 4corners because I heard that they are good and cheap and if I buy 2, I get an extra deck. Do you have better ideas? I think that I maybe can trade this third deck for something new, or sell it, or keep it as an extra deck. I hope you can help me.

Do not buy 4c! Support proper fingerboarding, not asshole china companies just selling mass produced shit at a huge profit and not giving anything back to fingerboarding.

20 euros for a complete does limit you otherwise.. I'd maybe go for a redemption deck, wide trucks (available from many places), and stick with tech deck wheels or any other wheels you have.

Ohw, I didn't know that
I also allready checked redemption, and their trucks are sold out.

What's so bad about 4corner and. I understand the sentence, but wat do you mean with "not giving back anything"?

I just want a cheap fingerboard and I allready have a redemption, but I had problems with their trucks :s

Dude every "true" company puts a majority of time and money they make back into fingerboarding, whether it be organazing super fun events or making new forms of products for everyone to enjoy! 4corner don't do that sadly, they buy everything on ebay and keep all their money and time for themselves, so it's really sad seeing such dedicated company owners losing so much sales because of these cheap, asshole companies!

I'd buy a redemption or nocomply deck if you want to save a lot of money and also get some bearing wheels, but if I were you I'd splash out on an FL deck my sponsor so I'm pretty much obliged to do this, but seriously they're sooo worth it! just browse around some companies and see what you like best

and if you want trucks really cheap, then you can get them from ebay for like 1 dollar, not contradicting myself with the whole china thing, but the trucks are just good for the price and cost next to nothing

And Dom, don't buy the FBS bushings because like 90% of their customers have had them break, buy TKY's if you're going for blackrivers, but if I were you then I'd get Ytrucks! <3

i would recomend a nice cheap deck like a redemption or forgiven cuz there really well made and cheap, and probly like dump trucks and NoComply Smoothies