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AxelWahl Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2649 Join date : 2012-04-21 Age : 24 Location : Sweden Companies : I own Weca bi$h Setup : Weca
Blackriver trucks
Bawse wheels
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:42 am | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- Does any one make a spine ramp ?
Big Construction just started making them |
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kerryDETH Admin
Posts : 10741 Join date : 2009-11-03 Age : 36 Location : Bristol, UK Companies : Fingerboarding, Skateboarding Setup : Blosom 32.5mm
BRT Wides
Witchcraft Teals
Flatface BRR Ed.
Ace Tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:10 pm | |
| yea, new big construction one, or the shen one if you can find it |
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MaxL Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2018 Join date : 2011-09-08 Age : 32 Location : Ontario, Canada Companies : Yoyoing, Fingerboarding, Skating, Longboarding, Trumpet, Music, Graphic Design, Web Design Setup : Redemption MMC | Vachina | Y-Trucks | Vachina
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:44 pm | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- Does any one make a spine ramp ?
Aphlikshun used to but it's not on his website any more. I'm sure if you sent him an email he might be able to hook you up or at least tell you when he's going to have more. From what I understand though the shipping on them is pretty high to send them overseas. |
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Xi Council
Posts : 2664 Join date : 2011-02-12 Location : Beijing, China Setup : Tech Deck Performance Series
Kamelpro 32.5mm Melus deck, Ytrucks X4, Oak RV2V, FBS tape
Kamelpro 32.5mm Amble deck, BRTs, Oak RV2V, FBS tape
Homemade freestyle 30mm deck, Ytrucks X3, FlatfacexOak, Ace V3 tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:47 pm | |
| - Streloma wrote:
- Yeah I have been using a piece of rip for a while now. Does not want to get better at the moment. Thanks for the suggestions anyway. Will try rubbing a coin on it.
Riptape usually takes me a week of fingerboarding until it gets good. I just set up another board with Rip and it is working great without even wearing in. How long have you been using it for? - GIllybear wrote:
- Does any one make a spine ramp ?
Tech Deck, lol. I have an old one and it also works great as a rail. |
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AxelWahl Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2649 Join date : 2012-04-21 Age : 24 Location : Sweden Companies : I own Weca bi$h Setup : Weca
Blackriver trucks
Bawse wheels
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:23 pm | |
| Just read almost all posts in this thread. You learn alot. |
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MaxL Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2018 Join date : 2011-09-08 Age : 32 Location : Ontario, Canada Companies : Yoyoing, Fingerboarding, Skating, Longboarding, Trumpet, Music, Graphic Design, Web Design Setup : Redemption MMC | Vachina | Y-Trucks | Vachina
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:30 pm | |
| - AxlWahl wrote:
- Just read almost all posts in this thread. You learn alot.
Because knowledge is power! |
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Streloma Blossoming FBHQer
Posts : 165 Join date : 2011-12-14 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:42 pm | |
| - Xi wrote:
- Riptape usually takes me a week of fingerboarding until it gets good. I just set up another board with Rip and it is working great without even wearing in. How long have you been using it for?
I have not been using it for anywhere near a week lol. I use it for like an hour per day for 3 days now the rest i just do with my other set ups And thanks for the reply |
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Orphan FBHQ Beginner
Posts : 22 Join date : 2012-06-22 Age : 27 Location : United Kingdom Companies : Fingerboarding :D Setup : Winkler Wheels
Yellow Wood
Brt 2.0
Rip Tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:28 am | |
| - AxlWahl wrote:
- Just read almost all posts in this thread. You learn alot.
Agreed |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:22 pm | |
| Why do berlinwood fingerboards cost 35 euro but there full size decks only cost 15 euro more?
something aint right :S |
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callumfb95 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 3193 Join date : 2012-01-08 Age : 29 Location : Manchester, UK Setup : Blossom 32.5
Trucks
Oaks
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:00 pm | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- Why do berlinwood fingerboards cost 35 euro but there full size decks only cost 15 euro more?
something aint right :S Haha |
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Xavier Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2752 Join date : 2011-05-15 Age : 27 Location : Inside my head Setup : Whats a setup
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:06 pm | |
| Berlinwoods are expensive as hell :X
Well for me... It is the price of a real skate deck LOL. |
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Xi Council
Posts : 2664 Join date : 2011-02-12 Location : Beijing, China Setup : Tech Deck Performance Series
Kamelpro 32.5mm Melus deck, Ytrucks X4, Oak RV2V, FBS tape
Kamelpro 32.5mm Amble deck, BRTs, Oak RV2V, FBS tape
Homemade freestyle 30mm deck, Ytrucks X3, FlatfacexOak, Ace V3 tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:12 pm | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- Why do berlinwood fingerboards cost 35 euro but there full size decks only cost 15 euro more?
something aint right :S Precision in manufacturing small shit is expensive. |
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Havok Fingerboards Every Day FBHQer
Posts : 797 Join date : 2012-06-22 Age : 39 Location : Oklahoma City, OK. Companies : Havok Fingerboards
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| What would you rather get? Berlinwood or a Skateboard? |
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Noel Part of the Furniture
Posts : 3703 Join date : 2010-10-22 Age : 27 Location : North London Companies : Flatface my ass
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:36 pm | |
| - Havok Fingerboards wrote:
- What would you rather get? Berlinwood or a Skateboard?
I wont buy A berlinwood new... not much to it.. and when you meen skateboard do you mean complete or just a deck..? |
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Havok Fingerboards Every Day FBHQer
Posts : 797 Join date : 2012-06-22 Age : 39 Location : Oklahoma City, OK. Companies : Havok Fingerboards
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:46 pm | |
| - Noel wrote:
- Havok Fingerboards wrote:
- What would you rather get? Berlinwood or a Skateboard?
I wont buy A berlinwood new... not much to it.. and when you meen skateboard do you mean complete or just a deck..? I'm comparing it to the Berlinwood Price- $45 and a Skateboard Deck such as Real,Anti Hero, Etc - $45. |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:02 pm | |
| - Xi wrote:
- GIllybear wrote:
- Why do berlinwood fingerboards cost 35 euro but there full size decks only cost 15 euro more?
something aint right :S Precision in manufacturing small shit is expensive. id say its a lot harder and longer process producing a full sized deck pluse ther is literally 1000 times more material costs involved, storage costs, list goes on they have just found a niche and exploited it to crazy prices... and because they have set the standard of high costs other producers follow the bandwagon. I can grantee they see 3 to 400% gross profit margins on fingerboards to about 20-30% on there full sized decks |
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Melvin A Thomas Part of the Furniture
Posts : 3129 Join date : 2011-11-04 Age : 27 Location : london,uk Companies : fingerboarding, robotic studies Setup : Pure,tec deck independant trucks 32mm, susbatance Classic Reloaded.
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| Anyone know, which material did shen bench made out off. |
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kerryDETH Admin
Posts : 10741 Join date : 2009-11-03 Age : 36 Location : Bristol, UK Companies : Fingerboarding, Skateboarding Setup : Blosom 32.5mm
BRT Wides
Witchcraft Teals
Flatface BRR Ed.
Ace Tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:26 pm | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- Xi wrote:
- GIllybear wrote:
- Why do berlinwood fingerboards cost 35 euro but there full size decks only cost 15 euro more?
something aint right :S Precision in manufacturing small shit is expensive. id say its a lot harder and longer process producing a full sized deck pluse ther is literally 1000 times more material costs involved, storage costs, list goes on
they have just found a niche and exploited it to crazy prices... and because they have set the standard of high costs other producers follow the bandwagon.
I can grantee they see 3 to 400% gross profit margins on fingerboards to about 20-30% on there full sized decks
not to be a nob, but you really don't know what you're talking about there. You think most skateboard decks are made by individual companies? Almost all the big skate companies get their decks made from bigger deck making companies, there are a few around who press a bunch of different companies. For example enjoi, almost, blind, cliche, and a few others I forget are all made in exactly the same molds, by the same company. BRR don't press their own boards I'm pretty sure. Making a skateboard takes soo little precision, thus can me made a LOT quicker. 1mm off on a skateboard no one gives a shit about, 1mm off on a fingerboard matters a lot. Also I think you'll find in both things the material cost isn't a huge percentage of the deck - its the time, effort, and money that takes that goes into making it. |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:57 pm | |
| I was thinking more on the production costs... Fbs are alot cheaper to make but cost as much as full size decks.. might take longer to make but still use substantially less raw materials than a full sized deck yet costs so much.... Simple case of paying for a brand aint it...
for example i remember flatface decks being $8 to $10 then he got famous and there like $30 now or summot... but still the same level of craftsmanship and quality...
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Alex Ward Every Day FBHQer
Posts : 812 Join date : 2011-10-17 Age : 31 Location : Atlanta
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| - GIllybear wrote:
- I was thinking more on the production costs... Fbs are alot cheaper to make but cost as much as full size decks.. might take longer to make but still use substantially less raw materials than a full sized deck yet costs so much.... Simple case of paying for a brand aint it...
for example i remember flatface decks being $8 to $10 then he got famous and there like $30 now or summot... but still the same level of craftsmanship and quality...
the craftsmanship and quality of flatface decks now are far superior to what they used to be. |
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MaxL Part of the Furniture
Posts : 2018 Join date : 2011-09-08 Age : 32 Location : Ontario, Canada Companies : Yoyoing, Fingerboarding, Skating, Longboarding, Trumpet, Music, Graphic Design, Web Design Setup : Redemption MMC | Vachina | Y-Trucks | Vachina
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:18 pm | |
| - Alex Ward wrote:
- GIllybear wrote:
- I was thinking more on the production costs... Fbs are alot cheaper to make but cost as much as full size decks.. might take longer to make but still use substantially less raw materials than a full sized deck yet costs so much.... Simple case of paying for a brand aint it...
for example i remember flatface decks being $8 to $10 then he got famous and there like $30 now or summot... but still the same level of craftsmanship and quality...
the craftsmanship and quality of flatface decks now are far superior to what they used to be. agreed that and he's mike schneider he couple probably charge more for them and still get kids to buy them |
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kerryDETH Admin
Posts : 10741 Join date : 2009-11-03 Age : 36 Location : Bristol, UK Companies : Fingerboarding, Skateboarding Setup : Blosom 32.5mm
BRT Wides
Witchcraft Teals
Flatface BRR Ed.
Ace Tape
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:35 pm | |
| at the end of the day if you're going to suggest production of something is purely material costs, I'm sure my xbox would cost about £10.
skateboards + fingerboards, like a lot of things, the raw materials are very little of the overall cost. The two are produced in totally different ways, and thus comparing them really is stupid. I think if you just brought raw materials for a skateboard, but in bulk prices, you're looking like £5, if not less. Then I got to my skate shop and pay £50-55 for a chocolate deck. See how the two aren't really that related? |
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GIllybear Constant FBHQer
Posts : 1099 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 37 Location : DY2, Uk
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:24 pm | |
| this may be true but like most things your paying for a brand name not a product. believe it or not Xbox is sold at cost price or when first realise they were making losses on each console sold.. Microsoft xbox revenue's are made from selling game rights to companies and xbox live etc. any whoo question answered... lets not spam the living be-Jesus out this thread lol i accept defeat good sir too Shay |
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wonduh Blossoming FBHQer
Posts : 268 Join date : 2011-11-12 Age : 29 Location : galactica
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 pm | |
| how does one go about gluing said round coping to the box? HAHA wood glue? |
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skeep222 Part of the Furniture
Posts : 1549 Join date : 2012-01-06 Age : 27 Location : Holden, MA Companies : Secks Decks, Fingerblast Ramps Co. Setup : Woob
brts
ff x winklers
| Subject: Re: Quick Questions Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:33 pm | |
| - wonduh wrote:
- how does one go about gluing said round coping to the box? HAHA wood glue?
epoxy, E6000. or if ur on a budget/ quickfix just normal superglue |
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